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Dave Conrey's avatar

Thanks for the shout out again, Jen. You pill me with acknowledgment. I’m glad to hear that I’ve unpowered you and others to come out of the closet with their AI experiences.

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Mansi's avatar

Thank you for this idea. I’m big on lazy efficiency! And I think everyone should be doing this. I was talking about the soup. AI is a whole other story šŸ˜ I think everyone has an opinion—some without ever having used it—and I’ve struggled with it. I’m one of those early adopters when it comes to apps and yet it took me a while to take Gemini, Claude and ChatGPT for a whirl. The fact is that everything online is using AI in some way or the other. There’s no escaping it…my take is, use it however makes your life easy. If it starts feeling like it’s testing your ethical boundaries and your integrity then the problem is not AI, it’s something deeper.

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Davin Trail-Risk's avatar

Sorry to spam your comments but one other thought… I find that I am far less worried about what people who are already seasoned makers, thinkers, builders, tinkerers, etc. do with AI. Most of those folks (I would include you in that group) are thoughtful enough that I can mostly trust that they have done their research and balanced their needs against costs to themselves and others. Not always the case but I have higher trust.

Where I have less trust is in the more mundane uses of this technology. The far larger user group that has novelty uses for the tech and doesn’t have a practice or a group of fellow artists, makers, etc. that are actively discussing these things.

Using generative AI for memes and novelty style mapping will make up most of its uses and will be responsible for the most resource waste. But it also heavily contributes to the ā€œeveryone does itā€ factor which limits critical discussion.

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Davin Trail-Risk's avatar

I think part of the issue in even discussing ā€œAIā€ (and it should definitely be discussed) is that a vast array of tools are all lumped together under a single facile name. And in many cases, the commercial implementations show up as this little sparkle icon in the corner of a piece of software that does many things of widely varying environmental, productivity, and moral costs.

I think we have to talk about these things because it isn’t a problem of opinion or personal preference in the end. There is now and will be going forward a possible gain and a definite cost to using these tools.

Their use is now semi mainstreamed so depending on our social circles, criticism might flow in either direction. But there needs to be critical thought around how we use and understand these tools.

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